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[Solved] Boot menu never shows

Postby warhoon » Mon May 25, 2015 9:13 am

I have a Toshiba Encore 8 with 32GB storage. When I run the option to increase storage space on the boot drive, it prepares the drive and a pop up informs me the tablet needs to reboot, and that I am to select the Double Space option on the Boot Menu. But no such menu appears, it just boots up normally... Am I to press F8 to get the menu to appear? I don't have a keyboard attached to it though.
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Re: Boot menu never shows

Postby admin » Mon May 25, 2015 12:08 pm

It should show automatically. Immediately before the final reboot prompt, open a command line window with elevated privileges and type "bcdedit /enum all" (without the quotes) and paste the output here. That might help us understand what's gone wrong. I can also connect to your PC via TeamViewer if you need any help obtaining this information.
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Re: Boot menu never shows

Postby warhoon » Mon May 25, 2015 4:38 pm

I kind of thought that it should be automatic.... here is the output of that command:


Firmware Boot Manager
---------------------
identifier {fwbootmgr}
displayorder {bootmgr}
{a6b7e080-b5f4-11e3-9731-806e6f6e6963}
{2e6fc525-5572-11e3-9717-806e6f6e6963}
{2e6fc526-5572-11e3-9717-806e6f6e6963}
{2e6fc527-5572-11e3-9717-806e6f6e6963}
timeout 0

Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier {bootmgr}
device partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume2
path \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi
description Windows Boot Manager
locale en-GB
inherit {globalsettings}
integrityservices Enable
isolatedcontext Yes
default {current}
resumeobject {ec235708-5582-11e3-b59f-a04156418c93}
displayorder {current}
{a775fa5e-02a3-11e5-9772-001edefcebc7}
toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
timeout 0

Firmware Application (101fffff)
-------------------------------
identifier {2e6fc525-5572-11e3-9717-806e6f6e6963}
description EFI USB Device
isolatedcontext Yes

Firmware Application (101fffff)
-------------------------------
identifier {2e6fc526-5572-11e3-9717-806e6f6e6963}
description EFI DVD/CDROM
isolatedcontext Yes

Firmware Application (101fffff)
-------------------------------
identifier {2e6fc527-5572-11e3-9717-806e6f6e6963}
description EFI Network
isolatedcontext Yes

Firmware Application (101fffff)
-------------------------------
identifier {a6b7e080-b5f4-11e3-9731-806e6f6e6963}
device partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume2
path \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi
description Windows Boot Manager
isolatedcontext Yes

Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier {4a1a8a79-5572-11e3-9717-8eddc2c05036}
device ramdisk=[\Device\HarddiskVolume1]\Recovery\WindowsRE\Winre.wim,{4a1a8a7a-5572-11e3-9717-8eddc2c05036}
path \windows\system32\winload.efi
description Windows Recovery Environment
locale en-gb
inherit {bootloadersettings}
displaymessage Recovery
isolatedcontext Yes
osdevice ramdisk=[\Device\HarddiskVolume1]\Recovery\WindowsRE\Winre.wim,{4a1a8a7a-5572-11e3-9717-8eddc2c05036}
systemroot \windows
nx OptIn
bootmenupolicy Standard
winpe Yes

Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier {a775fa5e-02a3-11e5-9772-001edefcebc7}
device ramdisk=[C:]\doublespace.wim,{4a1a8a7a-5572-11e3-9717-8eddc2c05036}
path \windows\system32\winload.efi
description ZIPmagic DoubleSpace 2
locale en-gb
inherit {bootloadersettings}
displaymessage Recovery
isolatedcontext Yes
osdevice ramdisk=[C:]\doublespace.wim,{4a1a8a7a-5572-11e3-9717-8eddc2c05036}
systemroot \windows
nx OptIn
bootmenupolicy Standard
winpe Yes

Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier {current}
device partition=C:
path \Windows\system32\winload.efi
description Windows 8.1
locale en-GB
inherit {bootloadersettings}
recoverysequence {4a1a8a79-5572-11e3-9717-8eddc2c05036}
integrityservices Enable
recoveryenabled Yes
isolatedcontext Yes
allowedinmemorysettings 0x15000075
osdevice partition=C:
systemroot \Windows
resumeobject {ec235708-5582-11e3-b59f-a04156418c93}
nx OptIn
bootmenupolicy Standard

Resume from Hibernate
---------------------
identifier {ec235708-5582-11e3-b59f-a04156418c93}
device partition=C:
path \Windows\system32\winresume.efi
description Windows Resume Application
locale en-GB
inherit {resumeloadersettings}
recoverysequence {4a1a8a79-5572-11e3-9717-8eddc2c05036}
recoveryenabled Yes
isolatedcontext Yes
allowedinmemorysettings 0x15000075
filedevice partition=C:
filepath \hiberfil.sys
bootmenupolicy Standard
pae Yes
debugoptionenabled No

Windows Memory Tester
---------------------
identifier {memdiag}
device partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume2
path \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\memtest.efi
description Windows Memory Diagnostic
locale en-GB
inherit {globalsettings}
badmemoryaccess Yes
isolatedcontext Yes

EMS Settings
------------
identifier {emssettings}
bootems No
isolatedcontext Yes

Debugger Settings
-----------------
identifier {dbgsettings}
debugtype Serial
debugport 1
baudrate 115200
isolatedcontext Yes

RAM Defects
-----------
identifier {badmemory}
isolatedcontext Yes

Global Settings
---------------
identifier {globalsettings}
inherit {dbgsettings}
{emssettings}
{badmemory}
isolatedcontext Yes

Boot Loader Settings
--------------------
identifier {bootloadersettings}
inherit {globalsettings}
{hypervisorsettings}
isolatedcontext Yes

Hypervisor Settings
-------------------
identifier {hypervisorsettings}
isolatedcontext Yes
hypervisordebugtype Serial
hypervisordebugport 1
hypervisorbaudrate 115200

Resume Loader Settings
----------------------
identifier {resumeloadersettings}
inherit {globalsettings}
isolatedcontext Yes

Device options
--------------
identifier {4a1a8a7a-5572-11e3-9717-8eddc2c05036}
description Windows Recovery
isolatedcontext Yes
ramdisksdidevice partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume1
ramdisksdipath \Recovery\WindowsRE\boot.sdi
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Re: Boot menu never shows

Postby admin » Mon May 25, 2015 8:20 pm

Yes of course, it should be automatic. In fact, looking at your pasted text, we can see that the menu entry is being created properly. The only question is why is it still not showing?

Perhaps your boot menu timeout is zero? Try running "bcdedit /timeout 15" and see if that helps.
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Re: Boot menu never shows

Postby warhoon » Tue May 26, 2015 7:33 am

Thank you. That actually worked. Now I can access the boot menu, and I was able to start the process of extending the disk space. Unfortunately, it stopped in the middle, saying that it couldn't write to the WIM file. I am suspecting that it was out of disk space. How much free disk space does it need to complete the operation?
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Re: Boot menu never shows

Postby admin » Tue May 26, 2015 10:47 am

I am guessing you used an Undo Disk and you ran out of space on the Undo Disk during processing...am I right? This is because:

You don't need any extra space on the disk you are compressing - other than a few hundred megabytes - and this free space grows as you compress the disk more and more.

Your Undo Disk, if you are using one, needs to have as much free space as the total capacity of your main disk, however. Not on your first compression pass (then, about half the free space as the total capacity of your main disk will do), but when you have really filled up your disk and are doubling it, then you will indeed need to have just about as much free space on your undo disk as your main disk (so it can really double the storage).
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Re: [Solved] Boot menu never shows

Postby admin » Fri May 29, 2015 5:39 pm

Thank you once again for reporting the boot menu issue. The latest ZIPmagic version (12.8.8) now tests whether the boot menu timeout is zero, and automatically sets it to five seconds if this is the case. Again, many thanks for your help with making our product better for all our users.
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